The Eternal Nature of Life

Douglas Conacher passed to the other side on June 6, 1958.  In October the following year was his widow Eira's first tape-recorded seance with Direct Voice medium Leslie Flint.  During the 1960s while sitting with Flint she would record many Direct Voice (disembodied speech) conversations informing her about her husband's new conditions of life.  Today the Douglas Conacher Collection of Leslie Flint Recordings are available for listening without charge at wholejoy.com.  Eira published two books of transcripts compiled from tape recordings of these sessions: Chapters of Experience in 1973 and There Is Life After Death in 1978.  Here is some of the background information provided by Eira Conacher in her Introduction to the first book. 

My husband and I did not meet until rather late in life.  Douglas was fifty-eight, a confirmed bachelor; I was thirty-nine, and deeply involved in my work as an Art Mistress in a school in Surrey.  However, on August 12th, 1937, a few months after what seemed a chance meeting, we were married.  This was during the period of uneasy peace before the Second World War descended upon us all.

Douglas had served in the First World War and knew only too well the horrors of war, and his highly sensitive nature was greatly affected by this second conflagration.  Years of illness, operations, and frustrations followed; and it became necessary for him to give up his publishing business in the heart of London, and try to find rest and peace in rural surroundings.

My husband was deeply religious, and a devout member of the Church of England.  The books he published were chiefly on orthodox religion and philosophy.  He had an overwhelming love of books and read widely, but I never remember him reading anything of a psychic or occult character.  Neither did we ever discuss these things.

 
We had twenty years of devoted companionship, and although the path we had to tread, and the lessons we had to learn, were often very difficult, sharing these trying experiences drew us closer together and made our love stronger.

I had read a few books on the subject of life after death before my husband's passing, but my quest for spiritual knowledge started in earnest a few weeks after this crisis in my life.

 
During this time, also, I was privileged to have sittings with many of the finest mediums of today.  These brought great joy.  Life took on a new radiance, and a new realization of its purpose and splendour dawned upon me.  What I had dimly perceived before, became clear and intelligible.  I knew beyond a shadow of doubt that death, far from being the end of life, was indeed the gateway to life, and to ever-increasing life.

 
I was classifying this material—with a view to compiling a book from the knowledge I had received through many forms of mediumship—when I found it necessary to put this idea on one side.

In August 1959, I had the good fortune to meet Mr. Leslie Flint—a well-known medium of integrity, who has the rare gift of independent direct voice mediumship—and to be invited to his evening circles.  These were great occasions.  Later, I had many private sittings with him.  Douglas soon became a very good communicator by direct voice, and expressed a wish to concentrate on this form of communication.  He said: "This is by far the most direct method, and the most satisfactory one, once one has become used to it.  There is much less likelihood of the medium, or the recipient of the messages, influencing what is being given . . ."

 
To avoid repetition as far as possible, I have deleted passages here and there, and in one or two instances, added a little information on the subject under discussion from recordings not otherwise used.  The editing of Douglas's conversations has been kept to a minimum, so as not to interfere with his speech pattern; the result is that nearly every word in this book came from him by direct voice.

 
These sittings with Mr. Flint have always been absolutely natural, and very happy occasions.

 
May these talks help to bring a clearer realisation of the eternal nature of life; so that while living this present life to the full, and in the right way, there may be an inner awareness of the greater expressions of living that will be possible for each one of us—beyond the school of earth.

Eira Conacher's book is "Dedicated to Leslie and Mickey with our love."  She described Flint's 'control' Mickey as "our master of ceremonies" and reported what she and other seance sitters knew about him. 

He takes charge under the varying conditions which prevail at the time of the communication.  His amusing remarks relieve any tension there may be, making us feel relaxed and happy.

Mickey's last earthly life was brief, for he was killed at the age of eleven, shortly before the First World War, while crossing the road near Camden Town tube station where he sold newspapers.

 
He is a great character who endears himself to all.

Sitters may have contemplated the significance of the manifold occasions when Mickey and the other communicators used the pronoun "we" in conversation.  Reminders of spiritual Oneness are found throughout the annals of transcendental communication.  Preceding blog articles have reported about some of these cases.  For example, the Ouija Board communicator/s in the 'Messages From Michael' case was quoted: "The name we are called is Michael . . . [although] Only one small fragment of this entity had that name."  The text of Edgar Cayce channeled reading 262-46 given on May 28, 1933 includes: "God, the Father, the first cause, seeking - in the manifestations of self - brought the world, as we (as individuals) observe it about us, into being - THROUGH love; giving to man, His creation, His creatures, that ability to become one with Him.  That son WE have called the Son of man, the Christ Spirit, the love made manifest in bringing the creature into material being in a plane we have called earth."  During a 2005 lecture in England, 'Paul' (channeling through Ray Brown) said about "all guides, all your helpers that come to you'' — "Why do we do it?  Pure love for you.  That is what makes Spirit also beautiful.  We've only got one thing in common — love and light."

In the two books of transcripts of her husband's Direct Voice seance conversations from the 'other side,' Eira's own comments are identified with the word 'Self.'  One chapter of the first book is a Tribute presenting communicator Douglas Conacher's words in appreciation to Mickey and Leslie, such as about Mickey: ". . . behind everything that happens there is Mickey . . . He is, as it were, the compère to whom we all owe a great debt."  Eira was equally appreciative of the medium.

Self: And Leslie, too, of course——

Douglas: Yes, the medium, bless him, we are very grateful to him for all his effort, the work he has done, and the many opportunities he has given us.  I hope his health will continue for many years, so that we can do this work and help many souls in your world.

One of Mickey's patterned quirks is quipping to seance 'sitters,' "You're a bit of a case" or some variation thereof.  In comparison, the contemporary transcendental communicator—also extensively documented—Ramtha, who channels through JZ Knight, is known to consistently refer to audience members as "entity."   Here is a Ramtha lecture transcript excerpt with part of Ramtha's response to a student's question about "what you do when you're not squeezed into this plane."

I am expressing, master, and I am being happy with what I am.  And when I am not the identity you see of me here, I am that which is: the platform from which all things come forth, for the seventh level is the totality of thought, which is the great Void that holds your planets in orbit, your cells together, and encompasses all things to the perimeters of forever.  And when you are a seventh-level entity, there is no such thing as levels.  There only is.  In that, you become all feeling of all things, of all knowingness, of all thought."

Mrs. Conacher's seances with Leslie Flint took place in his residence in the Bayswater area of London.  (The Leslie Flint Educational Trust photo)

Another book with transcripts of Leslie Flint Direct Voice seances is The Eternal Privilege (1988) by Joseph Powles Applegate, who designates the tape recordings as "a Revelation of the existence of the all-pervading mighty Life Force . . . For us mortals to be part of it is the Eternal Privilege."

Some Other Relevant Blog Articles

"'We' and the Mediums of Oneness"

"Metaphorical Correlations Among Paranormal Cases"
  

"'Gef': A Modern Sphinx as an Esoteric Lesson about Oneness"
   

"Messages From Michael"

"Case Profile: Edgar Cayce"
 

"The Ray Brown/'Paul' Trance Healer Case"

"Ramtha In Perspective"

Testing the Voices Heard on Leslie Flint Seance Tapes

One of the books presenting transcripts of the Leslie Flint Direct Voice seance tape recordings is Life After Death by Neville Randall.  Utilizing the collection of more than 500 tapes made by Sydney George Woods and Betty Greene during their sittings with the medium, the book was published in 1975 and republished in a Corgi paperback edition (as shown) in the 1980s.  The author reported results of tests involving Flint that proved the authenticity of the anomalous voices heard as disembodied speech during seances.  The book also presents confirmatory reactions of friends and relations upon evaluating the recognizability of communicator voices.

The first chapter of the book presents "Alf Pritchett's story" about a World War I soldier who is on the battlefield when he makes the transition to another sphere of existence with the help of Billy Smart, a friend previously killed during combat.  The source recording is currently presented in a You Tube video link and transcript at The Leslie Flint Educational Trust.  Randall found possible matches for these two soldiers with the names of A. Pritchett and William Smart of the Machine Gun Corps, killed in 1917 and 1916 respectively.  Below is the book's table of contents.

Chapter 20 "Voice Test" includes a quotation from a 1947 report by Rev. Drayton Thomas that was published in an issue of Psychic News.  Testing of the medium had entailed closing his lips with Elastoplast and a scarf while his hands were tied firmly to the chair.  Then: "Voices were soon speaking with their usual clarity and Mickey (Flint's guide) emphasized his ability several times by shouting loudly."  Randall reported that during another series of tests utilizing an infrared telescope the investigators actually saw the ectoplasmic voice box take form two feet away from Flint's head.

 Leslie Flint was bound and gagged during tests to prove the anomalous voices were not coming from him.

Members of the Society for Psychical Research participated in test seances of Direct Voice medium Leslie Flint.  An infrared telescope was among the testing instruments.

This is an infrared photograph showing an ectoplasmic voice box emanating in front of Flint.  (The Leslie Flint Educational Trust photos)

The following excerpt is from chapter 20 "Voice Test" of Life After Death.

From the time he began his recordings, Woods has issued an open invitation to anyone who knew the people they claim to be when they were on Earth to listen to  the tapes and tell him if they sounded genuine.

One of the first voices claimed to be Michael Fearon, who appears earlier in this book [see previous blog article].  Woods went to the sitting with Michael's mother, Mrs. Fearon.  The voice held a long and lively conversation with them both.  Mrs. Fearon was convinced she had been talking to her son.

From time to time friends and relations of the voices have taken up Woods' invitation to hear the tapes.

On 19 April 1962, a voice claiming to be F. E. Smith, Lord Birkenhead, one time Lord Chancellor, came through to announce that he had changed his mind about capital punishment, and gave his reasons for thinking it did more harm than good.

The tape was played to the late Charles Loseby, M.C., Q.C. who had been a student under Smith at Gray's Inn.  He wrote to Woods on 21 November 1965 from his home in Guernsey in the Channel Islands:

I, CHARLES LOSEBY, M.C., Q.C., hereby affirm that I am satisfied that I have heard the voice of the late F. E. Smith, Lord Birkenhead, one-time Lord Chancellor of England, on a tape recording made by Mr. S. G. Woods at a direct voice seance in London in the presence of Mr. Leslie Flint, the well-known medium.

I am completely satisfied after careful scrutiny that every precaution had been taken to avoid the possibility of fraud, misunderstanding or error.

I listened to the voice of Lord Birkenhead, still living, anxious apparently to  only to assist humanity.

On 4 March 1963, and again on 25 April 1966, a voice came through claiming to be Sir Oliver Lodge, the most famous English physicist of his day and an equally famous psychic researcher.  The tape was played to Mr. J. Croft, a retired physics schoolmaster who had studied under Lodge and knew him well.

On 1 August 1966, Croft wrote to Woods from his home at Angmering-on-Sea, Sussex:

At the invitation of Mr. S. G. Woods and Mrs. Greene, my wife and I listened to a tape recording of statements which we were told had been made by the late Sir Oliver Lodge.

We felt that the voice had the qualities which we had associated with the voice of Sir Oliver Lodge, we having heard him speak on a number of occasions.

There was a characteristic sibilance, an easy fluency of expression, and a choice of the apt word and phrase which we remembered were a feature of Sir Oliver Lodge's speech.

On 17 June 1963, a voice claiming to be Lilian Baylis, founder of the Old Vic, came through.  On 21 August that year Woods played an extract from her tape on Southern Television.  This brought him a letter from Mrs. Alys F. Watson, Lilian Baylis' goddaughter who had stayed with her at her home and worked with her at the Old Vic.  She made the short journey from her home in Hove to visit Woods and hear the whole tape.

On 21 November she wrote to Woods, "I shall be only too happy to confirm that it was Lilian Baylis' voice that I heard which I am sure it was."

The most extensively tested tapes were those of the voice who claimed to be Cosmo Lang.

The first communication came on May 1959, when he told Woods and Betty Greene of his changed views on religion and Spiritualism quoted in the last two chapters.  [A previous blog article is about the Cosmo Lang recordings.]

In September 1960, the Rev. John Pearce-Higgins, then vicar of Putney and Chairman of the Research Committee of the Churches Fellowship for Psychical Study, appeared on Associated Television's Sunday evening programme "About Religion," in a discussion on the relationship between Christianity and Spiritualism.  He mentioned the recording as evidence of a link between the two.

At the same time, as a feature writer on the Daily Sketch, I was briefed by my editor, Colin Valder, to write a series of articles on the latest evidence for a life after death.  Woods heard of my assignment and asked me down to his flat in Brighton to hear the tape for myself.

As an undergraduate I had heard Lang preach a sermon in my college chapel, St. John's, Oxford, in either 1937 or 1938.  But unwilling to rely on my memory of an event more than twenty years before, I tried, in the limited time available, to collect opinions from those who had known him well or heard him often.

Pearce-Higgins was fairly certain.  "Provided the seance was genuine," he said, "I think the probability is that it is Cosmo Lang.  It bears all the signs of Lang.  Those who have heard this tape and Lang say the voice is very similar.  It's just the sort of thing he would say.  When you take it in conjunction with a lot of other similar types of communications which can be more accurately corroborated, it seems probably true."

An old family friend, the Hon. Mrs. Herbert Lane, who lived near Wareham, Dorset, seemed equally convinced.  Lang had often stayed with her and she with him.

"My first impression," she said, "was that it is genuine.  As far as I could see it felt like him talking.  I feel it's exactly what Archbishop Lang would say.  It was just like him not to criticize without putting forward constructive ideas."

Pearce-Higgins helped to arrange a test which we hoped would be decisive.  At his suggestion I borrowed from the Director of Religious Broadcasts of the BBC a record of the living voice of Lang.  The famous broadcast he made on the Abdication of King Edward VIII in 1936.

I took this and Woods' recording to the home of the Bishop of Southwark, Dr. Mervyn Stockwood.  I played them one after the other, then both at the same time to him, his Chaplain and the principal of St. Stephen's Theological College, Oxford.

The test was not decisive.  The voice of the living Lang was stronger and firmer than the voice from the dead.

"I assume," said the Bishop, "we can rule out any possibility of conscious fraud.  Where the voice comes from one doesn't know.  It might be Cosmo Lang.  It might be anyone.  I cannot prove or disprove."

A point that worried the Bishop and the other two clergymen was that the discarnate Lang was less lucid in his arguments, less clear than they expected.  Lang when alive was a brilliant speaker.

It did not worry Pearce-Higgins.

"It is impossible," he said, "to expect the voice of a discarnate person to be exactly the same as the living voice when you consider the difficulties with which it is produced.  It seems the intelligence gets clouded in the descent from their high levels to our low ones.

"It is difficult for them to get through to us at all.  They cannot express themselves as clearly as they can in their normal state — or even as well as they did on Earth.  They do sometimes, therefore, seem to function on a lower level than they did when they were alive on Earth."

Soon after Pearce-Higgins received support from an unexpected quarter.

Towards the end of September 1960, the Churches Fellowship held their annual conference.  The Lang recording was played and discussed.  On 1 October Woods and Betty Greene had a routine sitting with Flint.  The voice claiming to be Lang came through again.  And explained why.

"I was at your meeting," he said, "when you gathered together with the members of the Churches Fellowship, and I realize only too well the reaction that has been felt in certain quarters in regard to my talk which you played on this occasion.  I have nothing to take back.  In fact I have more to say on this subject."

Another long lecture followed.  Towards the end Betty Greene snatched a chance to pop in a question.

"Were you with us the other evening?" she asked.

"Yes, child," he replied.

"Well, you know there was controversy over your voice?"

"There will always be controversy unfortunately."

"A little surprise," she said, "was shown as to certain words you had used such as 'afeard' and 'stratus,' and it was suggested that should you ever come through to us again, we should mention these points to you."

"The answer," he replied, "is simplicity itself.  You must remember that all sound is created artificially.  You in your world, using your natural human body, vibrating the atmosphere as you do using your own vocal organs, couple with your background and education, create what you term your voice peculiar to yourself.

"What constitutes an ordinary voice in itself, after all, is only conveying the thoughts of an individual.  When I, or others, come to speak to you, you must remember that we are speaking via an artificially reproduced box.

"Personally I do not think it matters whether one's voice is identical.  I doubt very much if anyone coming from this side can identically reproduce their voice.  After all, what is a voice?  A reproduction of thought by sound waves.  Do not forget, my friends, that we who are outside your world, no longer having the same physical body, no longer able to speak to you in a normal sense as you understand it, transmitting thought as we do by the power of an instrument or medium, can hardly be expected to reproduce identically, or even remember what the sound of our voice would have been like.

"Time itself robs us of many things, but what it does not rob us of is truth.  For we gain greater truth and knowledge by experience, and we are in a position to present you with truth if you will receive it.

"Do not be affected by the small things which so often people deliberately point out to try to destroy, because they are afeard — and afraid.  After all it does not really matter whether my voice is the voice that I had when on Earth, or not.  In any case my voice, like many other voices, no doubt changed from age to age.  My voice at my latter years of life was not like my voice when I was twenty.  And the change of word in itself here and there is of little import.

"I speak to you as I am — remember this.  Not as I was.  Remember that I have changed — thank God I have.  And I am proud to be able to say, if pride were in my nature but it is not, that I have changed.  My thoughts are not the thoughts that I once had, so what matters it if my voice be not the same?

"To those who doubt, I say the time shall surely come when you shall believe.  But it is better if you believe while you are yet on Earth, for then you can do much that is good, than to wait until you come here.  For many are they who look back and wish that they had known truth when on Earth.  How different their lives would have been: how different their actions: and how much more could they have served their fellow men, and God in consequence."

This recording was played to Mr. Conan Shaw of Angmering, Sussex.  He thought the voice was identical.

"As a chorister in York Minster 1908/1915," he wrote, "I had many opportunities of coming into direct contact with Dr. Lang.

"On a number of special occasions I was chosen to carry the Archbishop's train.  Dr. Lang used to row us choristers in a boat on the River Ouse, from Bishopthorpe Place.

"His slow style of speech comes out very well in the tape, as do also his mannerisms.  Both hands would clasp the top of his stole, then he would build up to a climax, to one word or one phrase as he does on the tape to the word "Now" and the phrase ". . . then shall they stand up in the church and proclaim it."  (This refers to communication.).

"His head would turn (1) left to right (2) right to left (3) centre observantly getting his three points home to the whole congregation.

"Yes, I have every confidence that it is the communicator Dr. Cosmo Lang whom he claims to be on the tape."

Corroborations are encouraging.  But are they essential?  In view of what Lang says, probably not.  The evidence from the other side supports his argument that no one in the next world can reproduce their voice identically in this.

"Many people from this side," complained Oscar Wilde, "try to say a great deal and in consequence say very little.  For the simple reason we are having to utilize this extraordinary method of communication.  Why they cannot invent something more congenial and more suitable and more successful than this I can't imagine!"

Ellen Terry explained the problem at length in 1965.

"It is not easy even for the most experienced communicator to always be able to come through and make a contact, and to hold a natural, normal so-called conversation.  I think the fact that we are able to make any contact is, in itself, a miracle.  And yet there are people in your world who, in spite of the evidence that they might have received in the past, in spite of the communications that have been highly successful, still have problems and still at times have doubts.

"All this of course we sympathize with, and we understand.  But you see, I think it's so important to realize that all communication is fundamentally a mental process, a transmission of thought which in reaching you may have become perhaps to some extent altered, or distorted.  And when one realizes that there are many, many words that convey very much the same thing, and sometimes a word will come through that has a similar meaning, and yet perhaps not exactly defines what we are trying to say.

"I wish I could explain to you that the 'voice box' itself must be by its very nature an artificial reproducer of the individual character, personality, sound, voice, impressions, ideas in fact everything that you receive.  Although it may sound at times — and we hope it does of course — highly natural, very real, yet at the same time it is the 'voice box' that is doing for us what in the ordinary way if we were on Earth our vocal organs would be doing.

"When on Earth you have your own particular body, and your own vocal organs, and you are living under normal conditions and your vocal organs are responding automatically and naturally; you're vibrating the atmosphere creating sound under natural conditions.  We are having to do all these things artificially.

"We stand in front of the voice box.  We concentrate our whole personality as best we can, and our thoughts.

"You know how difficult it is to keep one's thoughts clear, and how to be accurate in what you are trying to suggest or to say in the normal way on Earth.  How much more difficult it must be for us."

5/13/2018 Update: A series of 16 Leslie Flint articles was presented at this blog between 12/17/15 and  5/15/16.
 

Metaphysical Lessons of the Leslie Flint 'Direct Voice' Recordings

This is a photo of "Leslie and group early '70s" (with Flint seated center among a seance group) from an archived older version of The Leslie Flint Educational Trust website.      (photos link)

Experiencers of unexplained phenomena find themselves with a new awareness of life yet it has often proven difficult to share their knowledge with others who have only a superficial understanding of the evidence.  However, for centuries the vast field of journalism involving the so-called 'paranormal' has been an expanding data source.  Ancient Greek accounts include 'the oracle at Delphi' and 'the daemon of Socrates.'  Concerning the hundreds of audio recordings made at seances of medium Leslie Flint from the 1950s through the 1980s, the mainstream media has long ignored this documentation of Direct Voice phenomena (disembodied speech) that may currently be heard at such Internet websites as wholejoy.com. 

Leslie Flint appraised the entities who came to speak: " . . . all of them had something interesting, informative or uplifting to say which was recorded on tape . . ."  He wrote in his autobiography about the first sitters to make tape recordings of his seances, George Woods and Betty Greene: ". . . they always recorded their sittings on tape so that others might share their experience . . ."

Other collections of recordings available at wholejoy.com are named after those patrons responsible for the sittings: the Cook Sisters or Lynn Russell; while others are named after recurring voices such as those recognizable as that of Annie Nanji or of Douglas Conacher.  The complexity of the manifesting personalities was considered in a previous blog article.  Many recordings feature at the beginning and conclusion Flint's control 'Mickey,' whose humorous orations put people at ease upon dealing with profound questions of oneself and life beyond our earthly sphere of existence.

There are many illustrious communicator names to be found among the recordings, such as: Charles Dickens, Sir Winston Churchill, St. Francis of Assisi, Herbert Hoover, Thomas Jefferson, Louis Pasteur, George Bernard Shaw, Rabindranath Tagore and Queen Victoria.  There are as many communicators who led Earth lives without achieving worldly renown.  A communicator voice identified as "Chinese Man" is heard to say: "I have lived on your planet back centuries ago to China.  I have been called by several names.  And I do not feel there would be any advantage for you to know the name by which I was known . . . We are not in a world that is three-dimensional.  We are in a world that is fourth dimensional which you could not possibly conceive or understand.  It's beyond your comprehension." 

There are also found among communicator names those of people who during their lifetimes were investigators of unexplained phenomena.  These include Sir William Crookes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Arthur Findlay, Camille Flammarion, Gustave Geley, Sir Oliver Lodge, Rev. Stainton Moses and Charles Richet.  Descriptions of the numerous recordings may be read at an archived edition of a previous version of The Leslie Flint Educational Trust.  There are also some transcripts available.  Here are some examples of the descriptions.

Brother Adjul          Was a medium in his lifetime - life is truly eternal - we are with you constantly though you see us not.


Amenhotep        Talks of Egypt and the peace and contentment that spirit connection can bring.


Sir Thomas Beecham          The conductor still conducts in a world at a very different vibration - UFO entities from planets have interest in assisting us - will find how jolly good dern it is there - has a much younger appearance now - able to hear sitters' thoughts before they speak.


Bimbo the clown          Makes the people laugh still - very good time for everyone when you die - met many people he used to work with in the circus - no animals confined to cages there - you cannot escape from yourself.


John Grant          Warns that there will come a time when man will rue the day that he undertakes certain experiments in space travel - may open up a door to a disaster - man thinks that the nation who masters the moon will master the world - contacts have been made of a mental nature from souls from other planets - invisible worlds are generally of a higher order of advancement.


Jeremiah          A 1600s Cromwellian soldier killed in battle narrates his death and gives his views of the futility of war.


Dr. Charles Marshall          British surgeon and author of a long list of medical texts and a book titled How I became a Spiritualist.


John Sloan          The Glasgow Direct Voice Medium made famous by Arthur Findlay's series of books comes with Findlay to speak by direct voice himself for a few minutes - still very interested in what goes on down here - life there is wonderful; wouldn't want to be back here at all - says the atmosphere around this world is like a dark deep fog.


Bessie Smith          Slave cotton picker from the fields of Alabama - surprised she didn't have any wings - has some dandy shoes and a nice dress now - loves education.


Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree          The actor and Shakespearean producer says they are real human beings living in a world of reality - a great shock to many when they realize the naturalness of life - religion is about the last thing most of us think about - death is the great and glorious gateway to a truly fuller and happier life - we are creating while on earth the conditions we shall inherit.


Dr. Stephen Ward          English Osteopath.  Committed suicide whilst on trial in the 'Profumo Case.'


George Woods          George Woods himself returns for a few words along with Marie Curie and Daisy Judge's guide John.

In the 'John Sloan' recording (also available with some other Flint recordings at psychictruth.info) he/they are heard to say: "I'm not surprised there's not many mediums about because the conditions are terrible around the world . . . and if you could see your world you'd have a shock.  The way that we see it.  It's as if it's in a deep, deep fog . . . man sews the seeds and I'm afraid he has to reap the harvest . . ."

When during a 1985 recording the communicator introduces himself as "George Woods," the group of sitters express their surprise.  One of them acknowledged the irony: "You're a dead man now."  The voice is raspy while explaining the interval prior to communicating: ". . . well I suppose it's like everything else — takes time to get adjusted . . . I haven't lost interest in what you're all up to . . . I'm hoping to get back occasionally — and Betty as well."  In the same Flint recording, 'Brother John' told the sitters: "We are a band who come together in love — in spiritual harmony, anxious to serve those in your world who are seeking for the light and the truth."

'Brother Boniface' answers a question about 'God' in a 1960s recording: "An individual can only give an own interpretation, an own realization, if you like, of God.  And I think the greatest mistake of all has been to imply that God is a person, personality, individual.  I think this has been the greatest drawback to man's realization of things that are true and things eternal . . . how strange it must be to realize that man cannot conceive that the very essence, the very power, the very generating Force of life is in a sense—if one must use the expression or term—God . . . the world must not confuse and say unto ourselves that we are God any more than we must assume that there is a God who sits and weighs and judges and condemns and praises.  Christ understood but Christ's teachings . . . have been so transformed and altered, so changed that the real meaning and interpretation of  Christ's mission has been often misconstrued.  'But I and my Father are One' . . . and there is a Force and a Power at which we become more and more conscious of . . . we have when on Earth a physical body and when away from the physical through death we have an astral body.  And when away from the astral planes we have a spiritual body . . ."  Other cases of transcendental communication equate God and 'the Christ Spirit'/'Christ Consciousness' with 'we' and with the 'I Am' to reveal a Superconsciousness expressing through the totality of innumerable 'units.'

The description for the "Laughing Molly" recording—"Is she still having too much to drink?"—may be overstated as her speech exhibits a frequent neurotic tic.  'Molly' informed the sitters about her life in Ireland and commented about her current life on the other side: "I'm learning how to be a good woman.  It's a bit belated but I'm quite all right.  I'm quite happy . . . I go to school."  Many of the Direct Voice seance communicators evince that people maintain a sense of humor after their transition to a new sphere of existence.

Flint wrote in his autobiography about the puzzling "Ancient Voices [dead languages]" recording.

At the seance when it was taken Mickey announced he was bringing two people who had lived in ancient times to speak to George and Betty.  Thereafter a male and a female voice were heard talking together in some unknown tongue.  After a time the woman sang several little ditties.

When I listened to this 1967 recording, a male voice is heard to have said at the conclusion:

Ancient souls.  Ancient souls endeavoring to speak languages from which many of the Roman languages have been derived.  This is of special interest because we feel that it would be of scientific interest and which will be a basis for future occasions when we hope to be able to reproduce any souls speaking in languages long since dead.  And it may even be possible for many things to be deciphered which been discovered.  There is a purpose behind this.  We must ask you to be very patient and to realize that there may be individual instances of souls coming in the future who will speak and sing in various languages, which may be a great service to mankind.  Especially to those who are endeavoring to find out something of dead languages and dead peoples . . .

A similar recording is "Roman Soldier (Lucius [Lucillus]) - ancient language - recorded 8-31-1964 .mp3".  Mickey is heard to say in this recording:

There's several people here.  I don't quite know what's going on.  Hold on.  There's an Egyptian — an old ancient Egyptian he was.  Then there's also a monk here.  There's a oooh dear . . . (after Lucius spoke)  You seem to have got hold of a new group.  There's a number of ancient or at least a old Roman people here and also there's an Egyptian here.  And also there is a monk who evidently came over in the Middle Ages who speaks mostly Latin and doesn't know a lot of English.  And his chants — um oh it's all very confusing — a combination here I'll tell you . . . (after a woman's voice is heard singing first in English and then in an ancient language) . . . This is very unusual.  That lady came with Lucius — I got an idea she's an ancient Roman.  I may be wrong but they seem to all be linked up together and they're all associated with presumably centuries ago.  Possibly in Italy and Greece.

Mickey mentioned: "I don't know whether that was a song of her day or what but she's trying to get hold of something which could be very evidential — interesting I suppose.  (pause)  Do you know who Mithras is?  Well I'm not saying there's anyone here called Mithras — they talk about Mithra.  I think they have some particular religious sect."  Flint's frequently recurring guide 'Dr. Charles Marshall' was next heard and explained in his own manner, commenting:

. . . we feel that occasionally if we can bring something through which is in a sense very unusual and something which, if checked, and if possible proven, it would be so highly evidential that it would be a marvelous thing in itself.  And we have tried and we shall continue to try from time to time to link you up with some ancient souls who may I hope be able to transmit messages in their own dead language or a language which we hope is not that dead it cannot be followed but certainly something unusual and rather different which should prove and I'm sure it will prove highly interesting and evidential . . .  

The description of the 'Harry Price' recording was another of those that caught my attention: "The ghosthunter and psychic researcher during earthly life talks about haunting ghosts as being different from spiritual entities."  The recording is of a December 19, 1963 Woods and Greene sitting.  It is expressed that the topic is "Ghosts" with commentary about "the astral or the etheric world which intermingles with yours."  I noticed that there was no declaration of an omnipresent spiritual Force involving all aspects of anomalous phenomena (although the expressions "thought force/s," "psychic forces," "memory forces," "individual forces" and "etheric forces" are mentioned).  While listening to the discourse, I heard two prominent overlapping utterances of "NO" at 13:04 and 34:55.  There have been numerous similar instances of what is usually called 'Electronic Voice Phenomena' (EVP) that I've heard while listening to the Leslie Flint Direct Voice recordings as well as microcassette tapes of my own interviews and journals; these usually succinct utterances are audible when one listens carefully to all unedited radio and television broadcasts.

As expressed in this recording, Harry Price's theoretical perceptions of unexplained phenomena seem similar to those he expressed in books published during his lifetime although there is no mention of  specific cases that involved him.  It is mentioned about life on the other side: " . . . we on this side, as you know, are not necessarily changed immediately by death.  We are very much the same people.  That's one thing that I've discovered since I've been here — that this is a world of reality.  To us, of course, your world is the world of illusion in as much that so much that goes on, that you accept as factual and real, to us is very unreal apart from being factual.  This is the world of reality and we have the attributes and we have the defects often that we may have had on Earth."

Mr. Woods asked Harry Price to comment about "something not very nice" written about Sir William Crookes.  The response was given: "There will always be those who will — if they cannot by one mean or other — some means or other, they'll use fowl means to blacken the name of the person who has done so much to progress science and truth . . . Well, you know, there's an old Chinese proverb — I think it's Chinese — that 'Tall trees gather the most wind' . . ."  After the voice of Harry Price concluded speaking, Mickey had the final words as typical: "And a happy Christmas and a very pos — prosperous new year.  Yes.  Bye-bye.  And I hope the Spirit of Christmas will be with you.  And I hope Marley's ghost won't turn up.  Bye-bye.  Bye-bye."

A 'Mickey' recording entitled as being about "Truth" provides a perspective of the state of being sometimes called 'the other side' or pertaining to other 'spheres': ". . . various people coming from various spheres can only give you an insight into the knowledge that they have appertaining to their particular advancement or development . . ."

One recording features sitters Ida and Louise Cook (Cook Sisters #5) as Mickey began a conversation involving reincarnation by telling them about a Roman Centurion (soldier) seen by him during each of their sittings.  Mickey stated: ". . . whether you believe in reincarnation, I can't help that but I'm told to tell you that centuries ago when you were on Earth you both lived together in ancient Rome.  And that he was your brother . . . He's concentrating his thought force on to me.  And he says that one of you was called Octavia and one of you was called Flavia."

Mickey's statements included: ". . . I'm told to tell you that he's conveying to me that you are both what we call 'old souls' and that you've had various incarnations at different periods."  Louise was stated to have once been Mother Superior in a convent in Italy.  There was also an ancient Egyptian incarnation for the sisters before the Roman one.  Mickey said, "Your last incarnation from what I can make out of it from what they tell me must've been in France during the reign of Louis the Fifteenth."

Mickey further explained to the sisters: ". . .you have certain guides or controls — or people who have a certain specific work to do who really are acting under the agency of higher souls."  Mickey described these souls as "the masters" although he stated that it wasn't quite the word he wanted.   The masters were said by Mickey to "relay their teachings and relay their power and they're love through others . . . all communication must be by the very nature of things on a relay system.  That is the more highly evolved a person becomes — and the higher their teaching, the higher their realization of truth and that — that has to be sent down via other souls who act as agents, who are nearer Earth conditions."  Mickey informed the sisters that they had wonderful work yet to do: " . . . the seeds are sewn and gradually you'll be shown the path and the way."

This instruction about reincarnation correlates with other cases of transcendental communication and channeling as indicated by articles about other cases that have been topics at this blog.

In the 1966 recording of "Nellie Wright," 'Nellie' informs the sitters she told the gentleman she didn't think they'd be interested in talking to her.   She said that she used to be very religious in her time and was in the Salvation Army for fifty years after joining at age seventeen.  She'd lived in London with an unhappy marriage and was killed in the Blitz.  Upon passing from her Earth life, she was greeted by her mother.  Nellie mentioned that she'd always thought people interested in Spiritualism were "a bit touched."  Her appraisal of Flint was: "He looks half daft to me.  I don't know what to make of any of you."  She eventually told the group: "You know, it wouldn't hurt you to get saved, you know."  She was asked what she was doing now (in her life on the other side) and replied:

I'm doing the Lord's work among the children — teaching them and helping them.  The little ones who come over.  And I'm still preaching 'cause I'm no real preacher.  I mean I didn't have that kind of education.  But I can talk to people down in the depths, down in the dark places I go.  Take the light and the truth and the Word — I do.  I teach them and preach to them, you know.

Although she hadn't yet met the Lord Jesus, Nellie told them that she still went to meetings and sang hymns.  She lived in "a nice little place of my own."  After some reminiscing, she expressed concern that they didn't have a religion and recommended them to "join the [Salvation] Army."  When asked how she knew Jesus was there, Nellie responded: "He must be here" and commented that she wouldn't presume to know when she would meet Him.  Nellie's discourse is momentarily interrupted by Dr. Charles Marshall, who informed them: "This friend, as you can tell, is not very advanced but she's a good soul."

When asked if she has a Bible, Nelly told them she knows it from beginning to end by heart.  She also now knew about "a lot of other chapters that was missing."  She continued: "My mother still argues with me, you know.  Oh she comes to see me from time to time.  She says — you know she says to me — she says: 'You know Nell, you're living in a fool's paradise.'   Oh I was so upset . . . Here, you're with people that you like — people that think the same.  We're all the same, you know — we all have the same outlook . . . And one day we shall all be caught up together and be with Jesus . . ."

In the recording of "Brother Boniface" that I heard, a perspective of a bible lesson was offered: ". . . It is within ourselves.  We have within us the power to know many things.  We have the power within us to make many things possible . . ."  Listening to the Leslie Flint Direct Voice recordings reminded me how important it is to share what you've learned after gaining knowledge that may at first be unfamiliar to others.  Becoming more enlightened extends to life beyond the earthly plane.

Here is an excerpt from the April 25, 1966 'Sir Oliver Lodge' recording (dated according to an archive transcript).

We are very much concerned when we see your present world and the terrible, terrible state which man has allowed himself to get into.  Science properly used, properly applied is a blessing to man.  Much that is given to man through science could mean for man a better way of life and a much happier one.  But there are the limited few who see it, often, as a weapon which can be used in defense, so they say, of war.  And this is, of course, [an] appalling fact.  Instead of being used for man's good it is often used for man's destruction.  We have seen it in the past.  We want to avoid it in the future.  We who come from this side, particularly those of us who come with an idea of being of service and of being of real value and help to your world, are distressed and appalled, of course, when we see the state and condition of your world.  We are concerned with proving, if we can and I'm sure we can eventually in a scientific way of which I try to give you some idea.  But it will be, it must be.  The time is not far distant when there will be such a scientific aspect of communication.  There will be no doubts and it will be universally accepted and then perhaps we shall see the true beginning of the brotherhood of man.  We shall see many of the old barriers knocked down and we shall see that man has realized, perhaps [for] the very first time, how vital and necessary it is for him to band together and break down the barriers that separate, the barriers of creed and barriers of religion and politics.  These barriers that man has built up over centuries of time.  We are hoping and praying that it may not be too long before the first fruits of our labor will become apparent.